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All in all, yeah, a pretty promising thrill-ride season opener

Since we last saw the Fam finally sloughing off its redundant half, Doc and Yaz have been whirling around the universe taking in amazing places, circus workshops, and Meanwhile, in Liverpool in 1820 Joseph Williamson is compelling the multifarious unfortunates of the northwest to come on inside his tunnels to nowhere, because Meanwhile, nicest guy in Liverpool, Dan Lewis né Stevens, is giving free museum tours, handing out free food, and planning to give Di a—

Meanwhile, the TARDIS is on the fritz, requiring a series of escalating blunt force traumas to get it to Meanwhile a quartz-headed bad egg imprisoned since Big Bang One is coming out of his cage and doing just Meanwhile the Doc’s would-be murderer from the beginning turns out to be a laser-axe-wielding dog who kidnaps lovely Scouse Dan in his own electrified crate Meanwhile Arctic Circle Meanwhile Outpost Rose Meanwhile Sontarans, and did we mention the Flux?!

This is the second time we’ve discussed The Halloween Apocalypse on Who Back When.
Have a listen to our first take here: B075 Doctor Who: Flux, Part 1 — Instant(ish)Reaction Review

Here's what we think of N167 The Halloween Apocalypse (Flux, part 1 – re-review)

We rate Doctor Who stories on a scale from 0.0 to 5.0. For context, very few are excellent enough to merit a 5.0 in our minds, and we'd take a 0.0 Doctor Who story over a lot of other, non-Whovian stuff out there.

Leon | @ponken


Drew | @drewbackwhen


Here's what we think of N167 The Halloween Apocalypse (Flux, part 1 – re-review)

We rate Doctor Who stories on a scale from 0.0 to 5.0. For context, very few are excellent enough to merit a 5.0 in our minds, and we'd take a 0.0 Doctor Who story over a lot of other, non-Whovian stuff out there.

Leon | @ponken


Drew | @drewbackwhen


Here's what you think 4 Responses to “N167 The Halloween Apocalypse (Flux, part 1 – re-review)”
  1. hi gang! long time listener, first(ish) time reviewer here – when you read out my embarrassing old username from the B070 review last week, i realised that i would love to send some reviews in and actually contribute before you guys catch up!

    really quickly about last episode – the promotion for revolution of the daleks made it seem like the daleks would be super tech-y; why didn’t lenny henry come back? he’s literally a technology guy and he was set up to return but never did. that’s been frustrating me for two years – the opportunity was right there.

    running out of words so for this episode –
    – the format! a six episode serial in new who sounds exciting though sometimes in classic, for even the best serials, six is too many (ahem, genesis)
    – jodie! she really feels like the doctor now. her character is interestingly flawed – broody, brash and genuinely angry underneath. she’s not so sure of herself but i don’t think you’re supposed to relate to her completely – it’s an interesting decision.
    – the mystery of all the plot threads including division and the timeless child – how do they fit together in the end? (they don’t but still, it’s nice to pretend)
    – the scenes with swarm and the doctor – very intense and artsy
    – flux vs tardis and door placement – creative!
    – how good everything looks (karvanista/swarm/sontarans? amazing)
    – evil dan memes

    – clunky dialogue esp. the intro set piece
    – dan is a wholly unnecessary character
    – mostly that the episode was a mess – seems like they were just trying to excite us with no clear plan.

    rating: lots of potential and sometimes captivating. 3.5/5

  2. Hello guys its Jess back again with my second review 😀
    And Flux begins with the first ever Halloween special of Doctor Who ever..
    Immediately we are introduced to the doc and Yaz who are already in a touch of trouble which is a cold open I find captivating and the not so sly reference to nitro-9 made my fan senses go off.
    There were many bonuses to this episode including some terrific special effects and the return of the weeping angels and a brilliant piece of foreshadowing leaving us with curiosity and suspense wanting to know what happened to Claire (the woman in the street) and how she knew the doctor in a potentially River Song style arc.
    I found Dan frankly annoying, also where did he get the money to buy kids candy for Halloween if he can’t even afford to feed himself??? His house shrinking to nothing was
    The introduction of the aggressive Wookie…… I mean Lupari was a bonus to this episode as I liked the annoyed yet obligated way he had to stick around.
    I dislike the concept of the flux in general and when the Lupari surrounded the earth to protect it shouldn’t it have just eaten the earth and the Lupari ships???
    This episode felt cramped with so many plotlines being introduced and most of the story being nothing but building plot with little to no attention to the characters actual development for a smoother start to this story.
    Random Fact:
    the Cloister Bell tolls again as the flux approaches the TARDIS
    overall I am going to give it a 2.4/5

  3. Kieren Evans | @kjevans2

    Hi folks

    Good grief, it feels weird to be rewatching/reviewing something from barely over a year ago. But here we are. Now, we know how Flux plays out but let’s just mark this on its own.

    I remember liking it on transmission and still generally do. It’s a setup episode and it does each thing fairly well. Lots of plot threads, lots of questions. Probably too many. Yeah, that’s the real issue for me with this one. There’s so much set up that it weighs the whole down. Cut a couple of things and it would give everything else room to breathe.

    Particular likes are the Angel scene and the Sontaran’s appearance. Gone the purple of the RTD/Moffat era, back to the dark grey/silver of the classic era. Good, I always thought the RTD era suit looked crap. Also nice that the Sontaran makeup isn’t really clean and smooth unlike the RTD/Moffat version, much more like the classic who appearance where the makeup was a lot rougher than the very plasticky appearance as per series 4. Also not treating the Sontarans like a joke again feels novel after Strax.

    Swarm and Azure? Certainly creepy and looking great in a threatening evil way. Lots of questions but again that’s what this ep is about so that’s sort of ok.

    John Bishop? Yeah, he’s ok. Probably overdoing the Liverpool (a friend from Liverpool reckons Bishop does anyway as he is very Liverpool for where he is actually from).

    I think it’s good, 3.8/5 Downsizing your home a bit too literally.


  4. GP Haynes | @FindingGspots (Insta & YouTube)

    Hello everyone!
    Here is my mini Review:

    I really wanted to like this one more. It had so much potential.

    Well, I absolutely hated the start. Do they really have to show these ridiculous situations?

    Once again, Dr Who ( or is that Chibnall ) manages to spoil the show with these stupid scenes.

    John Bishop was OK as Dan in his first episode, but just. No one seems that impressed with the Doctor’s Tardis these days, or the Doctor…bit like real life I guess….

    The guest cast was OK, with the highlight probably Jacob Anderson as Vinder. Likewise the space station scenes were fantastic, and Dr Who shows off its vis effects team

    The rest is a bit of a jumble, and I think this season of The Flux could have been better, but hey the Universe always seems saving these days right?
    What happened to those great stories of just saving a spaceship, or village? Or even a planet was better. Nup, it’s everything again.

    Chibbers has to invent new stories, new ideas and new technology, all which utterly FAIL. The scope is way beyond what is dreamed up, leaving viewers frequently disappointed.

    At least we have the Sontarans popping in for change, instead of just Daleks and Cyberman.

    This is not riveting, and I’m quite happy scrolling my phone or scribbling in my diary while watching this.

    Mmmm, a downturn for Dr Who, following on from the awful previous episode.

    It ain’t terrible, but it’s very average…

    Rating 2.4 Not really that scary anymore Weeping Angels




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